What do you think of Ron Paul’s “American Freedom Agenda Act” to undo many civil liberties violations in one


&quot:We’re pushing the idea that we ought to pursue a broad-based legislative attack on all aspects of the Bush-era assault on the Constitution. We have a perfect vehicle to use for this approach, Congressman Ron Paul’s “American Freedom Agenda Act.” This bill was created by a number of progressive and conservative organizations and introduced by Ron Paul. This bill would . . .

* Repeal the “Military Commissions Act of 2006” and thereby restore the ancient right of habeas corpus and end legally sanctioned torture by U.S. government agents
* Restore the ”Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act” (FISA) and thereby outlaw warrantless spying on American citizens by the President of the United States
* Give Congress standing in court to challenge the President’s use of “signing statements” as a means to avoid executing the nation’s laws
* Make it illegal for government agents to kidnap people and send them abroad to be tortured by foreign governments
* Provide legal protection to journalists who expose wrong-doing by the Federal government
* Prohibit the use of secret evidence to label groups or individuals as terrorists for the purpose of criminal or civil sanctions

We’re contemplating a number of new tactics to push this bill forward. These tactics would serve to put Congress on the spot, much as Governor Schweitzer put Secretary Chertoff on the spot. But the first step is to start a steady drumbeat of messages hammering members of Congress to become co-sponsors of the “American Freedom Agenda Act.”

Please start that drumbeat today, by sending your elected representatives a message

I like the thrust of this, although some of it duplicates the McCain Torture Amendment.

Can congress give itself standing in court? Really?

I think the use of National Security Letters by the FBI should be curtailed.

ADD: People, this is not some Ron Paul campaign tactic, ok? This is real life.

Democrats and Republicans are the same. Behind close doors Dems and Reps are always in agreement. To the rest of the world, they act like they are against each other. This creates the illusion there are two sides of ever issue. In reality, they are the same thing. The Central Government, run by bureaucratic servants called Democrats and Republicans, know that there is a 11% approval rate of the government by the US citizens. This is unacceptable to the Dems and Reps. They need away to show there power. So creating a fear atmosphere, will get the citizens attention. This will also let them portray they are doing something for the citizens that cannot be done without the government. I’t is a forced recognition of power in all its tyranny. One of the rules of war when facing a stronger enemy is to divide and conquer, rather then to attack your enemies force as a whole. Knowing that citizens and there constitutional freedoms/rights are a thee governments greatest enemy, creating a diversionary tactic such as Republican and Democrat would divide the governments enemies &quot:citizens + constitutional freedoms/rights&quot: Once divided, the enemy is far easier to conquer. In this case, when we are divided, the Central Government can take away freedoms/rights, and implement tyrannous laws a lot easier than if we were united. Vote for ANYONE else besides Democrats or Republicans. I’t can be anyone ranging from a third party candidate to Mickey Mouse. Just don’t vote for Democrats or Republicans. They were bought and paid for a long time ago by bureaucrats. When Dems or Reps are elected, they serve the interests of transnational corporations that paid for them to get elected, not the citizens. I’t is the greatest acting out of a &quot:good cop bad cop&quot: scenario in history. Just remember: Ron Paul and The Tea Party are the Republican Party. &quot:I’f your a multi-billion dollar transnational corporation and you pay for, 1 President + 435 Congressmen + 100 Senators + 9 Supreme Court Justices, then you have total power over 350,000,000+ citizens and all there resources.&quot: I’f you don’t agree with any of this, you believe exactly what they wan’t you to believe.

I’m for it. Dr. Paul, of course, has no illusions that this is exclusively a &quot:Bush-era&quot: phenomenon. Only that the tempo of abuses has quickened.

In fact, there just doesn’t seem to be any stopping this runaway train. And with their minds clouded by the smoke of the media machine, the People are actually supporting things they’d shoot down without compunction, were they ever shown the unspun truth.

As things are, the violations this Act would end are actually supported by:

the People (believing the ‘news’)
the Legislature
the President
Most of the Judicial branch, and, of course,
the &quot:Free Press&quot:

There are two bad digits in that sick Sudoku. The press: let’s call it a &quot:9&quot: turned upside down and disguised as a &quot:6&quot:. Then, in all the confusion, the People, #1, were laid supine to look like a minus-sign.

And the bottom line?

Only the determination of the People, properly informed, disabused of illusion and sobered to the importance of their cause, will do all that is expected of this Act.

So, we need an Amendment granting us power to veto any item of any bill, to insist that a still-free press must label the journalistic integrity of their content (if it’s garbage, just say, &quot:This is garbage, don’t bother trusting it.&quot:) and to further amend the Constitution with enormous support (90+%) but withOUT Capitol Hill or the state govt’s.

Well… perhaps if the people ratify an Amendment by a 96% vote, 98% of state govt’s could call it up for repeal… but that would require another 96% against.

by the way… my Henry Ford question was sarcasm. Surely you know me well enough to know I wouldn’t assume the freeways came before cars?…

I think its a lost cause because whatever he or anyone else does to tinker with the American system of government it will remain an utterly unrepresentative and irresponsible failed one party state where another Bush will come along, probably at the next election, if Obama doesn’t turn into Bush first. America can only realise the reality of the supposed freedoms that it enjoys when it adopts true multiparty democracy capable of limiting the power of the executive. A system in which the executive is not restricted to the monied aristocracy and the supine lickspittles of big business. For that to happen Americans need to get away from the TV and
the whole right wing media control machine

Ron Paul and Bob Barr inspired me to join the Libertarian Party. Ron Paul is truly a revolutionary and the only man I think the founding fathers would honestly want to kick back with. He’s great and I love the way he thinks! And his honesty. 🙂 I’m pleased Bob Barr is running on the Libertarian ticket though, as I think he would be a much easier pill to swallow for America at this time. I hope more people will open their eyes and join the fight for liberty.

Its great. Paul is the only politician from either party really speaking out about the injustices are Government is doing to its own citizens. His ongoing fight &quot: The Campaign For Liberty &quot: is having a Rally For The Republic at the end of August beginning of September. Make sure to go if you can. There last Rally the Revolution March was amazing.

Its just too bad they swindled him in the primaries by changing the rules for some caucus last minute in the states he had a chance in.

(an edit): i just wished to share this analysis of the patriot act and its mention of FISA with the audience on this question: http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/T…

(original answer):

it’s time to get back to a strict interpretation of the constitution, meaning of course, that the people in our country will not be brutalized by any agency of the government to conform with any current cabinet’s policies of signing a statement that will in turn act against the principles and actual wording of our constitution, which i do not think is &quot:a piece of paper,&quot: but far, far more than that.

i may edit, DAR, adding more, but i want you all to know that my question that was not a rant and was indeed a question about people’s blogs that are against obama were recently frozen by google. this question and its answers, good answers, was pulled yesterday by yahoo (they said it was not a question), which i am certain is the result of an obamanista having read &quot:negativity&quot: about The One on this highly censored forum, with censorship so blatent that it is becoming anti-american.

and so, per the bill introduced by the only smart candidate that we had, ron paul, who does indeed care about our rights and freedoms, as you mention above: &quot:Provide legal protection to journalists who expose wrong-doing by the Federal government&quot: should go further to provide you and i, the people, legal protection against their having their opinions and questions here, on this forum, removed by obamaistas and/or other politically powerful people who act as spies to protect their preferred leader or even a preferred manner of [us] speaking.

I think it is stupid!

I like having my phones tapped!
I want someone searching my house without my knowledge!


it is too sad that people don’t look into his policies more. Ron Paul is one of the only politicians left that cares about our constitutional rights and a lot of these people laugh at that. If our founding fathers saw what the government is doing right now (Republican or Democrat) they would be furious and demanding a rEVOLution!

Thank you for spreading the word…

Ron Paul really inspired me.I am actually considering switching over to the Libertarian party. He is the only politician that is actually fighting for the Constitution and no receiving hand out from lobbyists. That’s why it is so hard for him out there…he is surrounded by the corrupted.

EDIT:Wow,people are really stupid these days.I guess they deserve what they get. Try actually researching the man instead of feeding off from bullsh*t propaganda like FOX news. Do you think Rupert Murdoch is really neutral to the Constitution? He can wipe his *** with it for all he cares.

*raises hand*

Thank you for supporting the beloved Constitution of the United States of America.

God Bless.

edit: it is nice to see an intelligent discussion about our Constitution in the net. it is fun following your thoughts.
Psalm 118

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